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Archive for April 24th, 2008

As has been pointed out by both Canadian Capitalist and Michael James the Bank of Canada’s 1/2 point rate drop has not been reflected by the major banks yet, in terms of Mortgage rates (especially in longer term mortgages). Short term mortgages and credit vehicles that are typically based on the Prime interest rate, do reflect this dropping, but longer terms (greater than 6 months) certainly do not reflect this drop.

Why are Mortgage Rates not Lower? Darn good question. Currently the TD Bank’s prime rate is 4.75% and that is also what they are charging on their variable rate 6 month mortgage, however, after that the rates start climbing, to a maximum of 7.75% for a ten year fixed rate mortgage (more than twice the current Bank of Canada rate).

Remember that all rates posted on these sites are negotiable in some fashion or another, and here we come to the real core of this post.

If the bank says, “We don’t negotiate Mortgage rates”, simply leave, and call a Mortgage Broker and you might be surprised that the Broker can get a cheaper rate from the exact same bank (and remember the Broker makes money on this too).

Banks Need You

Remember, if you are a good credit risk and you want to truss yourself up with a long term debt like a Mortgage, the Banks want you! They want your business, and they want your money passing through them. They want you even more, if you carry balances on your Credit Cards, but let’s not go to that subject today, but remember, the bank wants your business, and keep that in mind.

When you are talking to a bank about Mortgage rates and such, it is an excellent time to discuss getting Free Banking too. This corporation wants your business, now is the time to be asking (or demanding) for the best deal you can get. Be prepared to talk to a few banks, and also be prepared to be promiscuous with that information, tell the banks the deals other banks are offering you, and see if they will match the deal or even make a better deal (I don’t suggest lying, mostly because I am a lousy bluffer or liar, being dishonest isn’t the way to go).

Let me be honest, I am awful at negotiating, but I am learning that it is an important skill to develop, so I work on it. It is all a game for me, and getting the best deal I can, is the goal of the game. A really good tactic is to get friends or family to tell you what deal they got, and see if you can beat that deal. You may not get that deal, but maybe you’ll get a better deal, you never know, until you negotiate.

The only thing I can tell you for sure, if you do not try to negotiate, you will not get a good deal from the bank. Strangely the opposite of this is not true (i.e. if you negotiate you will get the best deal), but, if you don’t negotiate, I promise you will not get a good deal (unless your father or mother or a relative owns the bank or works at the bank, but then you are playing the game by using connections, so go for it).