ODSP and RDSP Services that Clash ?

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The Ontario Disability Support Program ( ODSP ) and the Registered Disability Savings Plan ( RDSP ) seem to be contradictory to each other.

What is an ODSP? The on-line resources say:

ODSP income support helps people with disabilities who are in financial need pay for living expenses like food and housing. It also provides health benefits like drug and dental coverage.

ODSP is a program of last resort.

This means the person with a disability looking for help, must have little or no income from a job or any other area. For many disabled folks in Ontario it is their only real income (and it is not that much).

ODSP RDSP

We have seen that the RDSP is a long-term savings program for disabled folks, but how does it affect the ODSP program? I had heard a few different interpretations, so I asked my MPP Lisa MacLeod to investigate, and her office received the following from the Ministry of Community and Social Services, opinion is as follows:

An RDSP is fully exempt under social assistance as income and assets, and does not impact eligibility for ODSP income support. All funds held in RDSPs are exempt when assessing eligibility for ODSP.  There is no maximum applied to this exemption, although the federal government limits RDSP contributions at $200,000.

ODSP recipients can also make unlimited withdrawals from their RDSPs, and these withdrawals will not affect their financial eligibility for ODSP or the amount of income support if they are spent in the month withdrawn.  Voluntary contributions to an RDSP from family, community groups or others will not affect a person’s financial eligibility for ODSP or the amount of income support provided.

Is it Worthwhile Having an RDSP ?

It is a good thing that the person with a disability can have an RDSP, however, they cannot use it to simply supplement their income. Any moneys withdrawn will need to be used within a month or that income will lower the ODSP payments to the disabled person. Any money withdrawn from an RDSP would be a short-term or one-time cost.

Given how little income the ODSP pays, any RDSP opened would most likely receive a CDSB (Canadian Disability Savings Bond) of $1000 a year. This suggests it is worthwhile opening an RDSP even if no money was available to deposit into the account. The RDSP beneficiary will not have their ODSP penalized for the RDSP.

How do they withdraw money from their RDSP without penalties? I will be writing about this very soon.

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  • Ron Malis November 7, 2017, 3:15 AM

    It is true that a “payment” (i.e. withdrawal) from an RDSP is not treated as income or an asset by ODSP in the month it is received. It would then be treated as an asset, if any is remaining, starting the following month. But that does not necessarily mean the demise of ODSP eligibility.

    As of September 1, 2017, the ODSP asset limit was increased from $5,000 to $40,000. This significant increase provides a lot of breathing room to hold on to a fair bit of the RDSP withdrawals. Even if a person’s savings crept up near the $40,000 level, the money could be placed in a segregated fund account. ODSP treats assets of up to $100,000 in segregated funds, cash value life insurance, and a disability trust, combined, as exempt.

    With proper planning, excess RDSP withdrawals can be held onto without jeopardizing ODSP eligibility.

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    • bigcajunman November 7, 2017, 5:39 AM

      Thank you very good information!

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      • Ron Malis November 9, 2017, 11:23 AM

        Here are links for two articles I wrote about the recent ODSP changes, if you are interested.

        ODSP Changes Explained: http://www.ronmalis.com/important-changes-odsp/
        ODSP Needs To Be Simplified: http://www.ronmalis.com/odsp-needs-to-be-simplified/

        If my memory serves me right, your son is still a minor (i.e. has a few years to go before ODSP becomes an option at age 18). If you think the RDSP is complex, wait until you start diving into the details of ODSP. Given how you dive into other topics, I sense ODSP may become a major topic for you to write about, if your son needs ODSP down the line.

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        • bigcajunman November 9, 2017, 11:26 AM

          Might even get it’s own menu bar item! ODSP!

        • Ron Malis November 9, 2017, 11:31 AM

          If I were a betting man, I would lay some money down on that happening!!

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