Self Insured Company Disability Plans

More Insurance that Doesn’t Quite Insure

Please note this post is more of a rant than anything else, please treat most of this as my opinion only

So the plight of the 400+ Nortel employees who have been living on disability insurance, and are about to be cut off from their benefits (in fact they may already be cut off, couldn’t really find a straight answer there), has come to light in the media again (Nortel officially disappeared last week, I believe with the last vestiges transferring to another firm).

How can this be, you ask? Nortel and other large companies typically self insure these kind of plans, which means, even though it looks like you have your insurance with a large insurance company (say like Sun Life or Manulife), your policy is held by your employer and is paid out by them (should you make a claim). To the large company it is much cheaper to have the large insurance company simply administer the Insurance Policies, and have the money come from the large company directly (rather than simply paying premiums to the insurance company and have them profit from the programs).

So what is the problem? The obvious issue with Nortel, is that the company effectively does not exist any more, and thus anyone who is owed money through this kind of disability policy is now only an unsecured creditor, and is likely to get very little (if any) more money. The fact that this debt can be dodged by the firm by simply declaring bankruptcy is smelly (in my opinion).

So what can be done? For the folks at Nortel, not much more, they have hammered out a deal to get whatever moneys they can, but as of the cut off date, they will be without income, leaving them few options to live on. For those that have disability insurance with large firms that are currently self-insuring, they should be contacting their MP’s right away to have put in place some kind of protection system for this kind of insurance policy.

There are two pieces of legislation on the books about this topic:

  • Bill S-216 An Act to amend the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act and the Companies’ Creditors Arrangement to protect beneficiaries of long term disability benefits plans (authored by Senator Art Eggleton)
  • C-476 An Act to amend the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act and other Acts (unfunded Pension Plan Liabilities) (author Wayne Marston (Hamilton-East-Stoney Creek))

That people should talk to their MP about.

Pension reform is needed as well, but these “policies” being held on the companies books as debt liabilities and not like a pension (which is held by an Arms length company, that is funded by the Insuror), puts 1.1 Million people at risk currently (according to the Canadian Life and Health Insurance Association (from the CBC post Disabilty Insurance at risk for 1.1 Million)).

If you are in this kind of disability insurance program, you may be at risk and it would be in your best interest to follow up on this issue.

What really upsets me, is I paid for this insurance when I worked at Nortel, and it was a very expensive premium that was paid for peace of mind, yet the money effectively went into the companies coffers, instead of a safe place in case I needed it?

The worst part of this whole story, is I know people directly effected by this cut off, and they are the ones who need help. We shall see how this shakes out, but if anyone knows more about this, please feel free to comment.

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  • nortel disabled (former) May 7, 2011, 11:32 PM

    Undisclosed self insured plans should be illegal. Companies like Nortel need to live up to their obligations.

    Bill C-624, introduced by Liberal MP Mark Eyking, would amend the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act and the Companies’ Creditors Arraignment Act to protect employees on long-term disability by granting them preferred status during bankruptcy proceedings.
    Independent financial analyst Diane Urquhart, who has championed the workers’ cause, said the Tories are objecting to it for the same reason they killed the previous bill. But that clause, she claimed, has been eliminated. “There was a debate on March 11 in the House and while there was no vote, what essentially happened was the Conservatives indicated they would not support the bill for all the same reasons the Senators did not support (the previous bill),” she said. “They did not give a single fact or evidence to support their reasons.”

    While we are in crisis the following bonuses and “professional” fees have been paid in Nortel Bankruptcy proceedings.
    328 Million in Professional Fees
    On top of this, there is an Annual Incentive Plan which continued in the normal course post bankruptcy without requiring court approval.If I assume Annual Incentive Plan (AIP) of 10% of pre-incentive payroll, then the total global AIP could be well in excess of $300 M. Take this AIP amount of $300 M number as an Urquhart estimate only and one that is based on an assumption of % of payroll paid as an AIP and an estimate of Nortel global payroll based on knowing the actual Nortel Canadian payroll. The total bonuses paid in 2009 & 2010 would likely be at least $440 M.

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  • kiray December 10, 2010, 7:14 AM

    Many canadians are unaware that the canadian government offers tax benefits and grants for anyone who has a physical or mental disability. Unfortunately collecting these benefits can be complicated and stressful. At the Canadian Disability Corporation they simplify the process to make sure you obtain every dollar possible from the CRA. On top of this, they will also ensure you’re applied to other programs available to people with disabilities such as the Registered Disability Savings Plan (RDSP).
    http://www.canadadisability.ca/

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  • Smitty May 31, 2010, 7:47 PM

    I might also add that an appeal of the settlement that would force the disabled onto the welfare system is pending and the result is expected in a day or two. The fight for the rights of the disabled Nortel employees is not over. Support and help for all Canadians who have this toxic Insurance is not over and ability to have the change in time to protect the Nortel disabled workers has not expired. Action to keep taxpayers from supporting these more than 400 disabled Canadians and the many that may unfortunately follow is needed now, it is not to late to stand up and tell The PM, Toxic Insurance does not belong in Canada. Say it now, or pay for it later.

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  • Smitty May 31, 2010, 7:25 PM

    As one of Disabled Nortel employees fighting to stop this toxic Insurance to protect all Canadians, I have lots of advice and also knowledge about what is an isn’t being done. The Nortel disabled employees continue to recieve benefits and will until Dec.2010. At that time whether or not Nortel continues as a patent or other type company the disabled employees will be fired. The burdon of supporting these workers will fall to the Canadian taxpayers unless the government amends the CCAA/BIA with for example Bill S-216. We have started a post card/letter campaign to send to PM and would suggest that all Canadians join it. It is a non partisan comment, it simple states that all Canadians need to be protected from Toxic Insurance. Writting to the PM is free no postage required. Over a million Canadians are lining the pockets of companies with their hard earned dollars, thinking that their contributions are being used to provide them with insurance, this is wrong and must be stopped. In one study the difference in what they are paying for and real insurance that would protect them is $60 a year. I think most Canadians if told the truth and given the option of real or toxic insurance would happily pay the $60 for safety and peace of mind.
    I would be happy to provide your readers with a copy of the letter for the PM and the address. It would be nice if it could be posted on this site, so all your readers could help protect themselves, either by no longer paying employers for toxic insurance, or from picking up the tab after these companies like Nortel fail in tax dollars. It’s companies like GM, Chrysler and the Bay (3 of hundreds who self insure)who’s disabled will also need to be supported by taxpayer money if Government change does not happen.

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    • bigcajunman May 31, 2010, 7:40 PM

      Please send it to me, I will post it on this site.

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